I liked the Hebrew lessons but is it relevant for the debate? Don't Gappers believe Heaven and earth WERE created in six days when the earth and most if not all of the heavens were destroyed after Gen. 1:1? The first pronouncements of the Sabbath commandment was not exactly the right time to introduce the Age of Dinosaurs to the Isrealites.
And can we critique the critics?
Doesn't Divine Sovereignty deal with the death and destruction before sin issue?
 

There's really no point in discussing the gap theory from a scriptural perspective, I think, since the Bible does not deal with the pre-Adamic world. Do you really think it's mentioned somewhere outside of Hebrew nuance? I don't think so. The literal gap between Gen. 1 and 2 where we have to read millions of years between the lines suggests the Bible isn't recording this period.
We have to ascertain the facts scripturally by looking at God's character as revealed in Scripture and posit whether it fits with a pre-Adamic creation of death, dinosaurs, and destruction.
I see nothing that goes against his character if you agree Sin is a transgression against GOD, not against the flesh, yours or another's or something else's
 

Hello Ole,
I see it has been a long time since you have posted to your Blog, but I wanted to let you know that I found it, and find it to be helpful. I have only recently become interested in the Gap Theory, but when I realized that men of the caliber of Pink and Shaffer were proponents, I decided I'd better learn something about it. Thanks for making the effort to do the Blog.

S.Learner
 

TO: The Gapper

God did not create the earth in six days, he MADE it, now that is a whole different word than create, BARA.

check out arthur c custance on www.creationdays.dk

TO: Slow learner

glad you like it
 

I agree with what you say about ASAH and BARA.

But what does Chalmers have to say about destruction and the question of whether it is very good?

Did it not exist prior to any sin in heaven or on earth?
 

To Mark:

I dont know what chalmers says, havent read his writings. But the very good is only about the things God did create in the six days, it is not a comment on the destruction
 

If God created the Age of the Dinosaurs, even with its death and destruction, and even without sin, I would have to say that that "He saw that it was good" if it was his sovereign will. Creation including man on a world dominated by dinosaurs necessitated destruction even without sin and the devil. Destruction was always part of God's plan from what I can see and read in the Bible.

Have you addressed the why question of the Gap and of the entire creative chronology from Gen. 1:1 billions of years before Man?
 

Mark:

I dont know what to answer you there
 

It's not just the dinosaurs. Their extinction could just be a sign for mankind of what God can do to the dominators of the earth.

The lineage of primitive apes and primates and so-called hominids, prior to man being dropped in, is a problem and other divine purposes for the pre-Adamic creation must account for it.

None should take for granted a demonic fall for death-before-
Adam. I think the angels fell partly as a result of seeing God destroy his creation and not understanding his actions and losing faith in him. It's no different than man today.
 

Mark:

keep Gods word in sight, dont spkulate so much

read Isa 14.12 or so, and Eze 28, it says that people were led captive and destroyed, that was the reason God judged the earth, 1/3 of all angels rebelled and held people in the rebellion too
 

I'll stop 'spkulating' if you avoid controversy as stipulated in 2 Timothy 2.
At lot of quick and easy 'spekulating' has been done already in the past. But I recognize God's Will for intellectual freedom even for ministers who feel like commentating on science and who believe the earth is 6000 years old and so the devil must have put the dinosaur bones there to fool us all. At least the latter statement acknowledges that there's a problem if you accept the first one.
He's a thinking pastor.
 

Ole,

Ezekiel 28 is a good scripture to read on this issue. But verses 12-15 prove my point about the angels not falling before Adam.
It lists all that was good about the King of Tyrus and the Devil.

"Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. THOU HAST BEEN IN EDEN; every precious stone was thy covering...Thou wast perfect until iniquity was found in thee."

The Devil was in Eden perfect. He did not cause pre-Adamic creation to be destroyed.
 

Ezekiel 28 is a good scripture to read on this issue. But verses 12-15 prove my point about the angels not falling before Adam.

CORRECTION: I should have said "prove my point about the angels not falling before the destruction of the dinosaurs, etc."
It never occurred to me that the Devil wouldn't already have fallen before Adam was created.
 

Genesis 2 presents a good example of how God can and DID reform the same creations after the six days. The chapter talks about how God formed the animals in the Garden of Eden.
Gen. 2:18 And the LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a companion who will help him."

19 So the LORD God formed from the soil every kind of animal and bird.

Some think this passage contradicts Genesis 1 but it makes no sense that God would have created a canine in the Americas to make Adam happy in Mesopotamia. He remade it in the Garden after the first Sabbath.
 

Tohu wa bohu also means unformed and unfilled. The gap theory is all based on death and ignorance of the Hebrew language. It is written that God is a living God not a God of death.

II Thessalonians 2:10-12 10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 

Soulspeaker
it is so sad to see how you manipulate with that verse

anyway, how do you look at the fact that the was form is not in the hebrew only in the becomming form?
 

I manipulated nothing. read the bible it says

Gen 1:2-3 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

This light came from God himself. you guys are only read parts of the bible that you want to hear and twisting them so you can live in sin and be saved. Well you can't.
It is also in
Jeremiah 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, [it was] without form, and void; and the heavens, and they [had] no light.

Genesis was straightforward and easy to understand. you are putting to much into it. if the gap theory was true then you would have death coming before sin. that is not true and a contradiction. it is written that sin brought death into the world.
 

Dino's were around when man was around. the reason why you have the bones is because of the flood. they found a man foot inside a boot that was made from the 1950's fossilized. it takes only about a year to fossilized a pickle. when Jesus said that it was good he meant it was perfect. man was in the garden at least 100 years or less. they didn't not sin on the sixth day. Jesus wouldn't be able to say that it was good if that was true. Also Jesus did not bring sin into this world nor did he crate sin. the devil did this.
 

"Soulspeaker", how is someone sinning by believing that God created an age of Dinosaurs before Adam? The God of Life destroyed the whole world in a flood.

God created a world of giant carnivorous creatures for reasons not spelled out in the Book of the Law and we might not know the reason for it, but God is not lawless. If sin can make him a flood the world, I'm sure there are other reasons for him to create a world that included death and then destroy it with a rock.

The Scottish guy, Thomas Chalmers satisfactorily reconciled the Bible to science and, even if the naysayers don't agree, they should cool it and just stay out of the religion-science controversy which mostly has no direct bearing on Biblical revelation. Not avoiding controversy when possible is a sin.
 

"it takes only about a year to fossilized a pickle." QUOTE Soulseeker

You might want to tell that to the "Creationists" who don't believe a tree can be fossilized standing up and then buried over millenia in different geologic strata. These supposed proponents of the Bible use upright fossilized trees to promote Noah's flood as the only universal cataclysm. Now you put them in a fossilized pickle.
 

John Morris says, "Here is the problem. If death existed before Adam, then death is not the penalty for sin. How, then, did Christ's death pay the penalty for our sin? If death is not tied to Adam’s sin, then life is not tied to Christ’s death and resurrection, and the Christian faith is all in vain."
 

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It was mans sin, that Jesus died for, Adams sin. Death was already in the garden by the snake, and by the angel fall

so that death came by one man, in context yes sure, to humanity, by a man
 

Exactly, Ole. Death is physical AND/OR spiritual death (in hell). Spiritual death was already there in the Garden with the serpent.

Soulcatcher, how does the death of a big reptile before man's sin negate our faith? Jesus' death doesn't help the devil; does that mean it was in vain?...He didn't die to redeem the devil or a dinosaur. T-Rex has no need for redemption.

I used to believe Henry Morris 100% but now I find Chalmers and the Gap reconciles the Bible and science much better. Physical death existed prior to the Garden. So both physical and spiritual death (devils) existed separately and prior to Adam. Only human death, truly both physical AND spriritual, didn't exist.
 

Soulspeaker said...
John Morris says, "Here is the problem. If death existed before Adam, then death is not the penalty for sin.

Soulspeaker,

Animal sacrifice for sin also existed before Jesus' sacrifice. If death is so terrible, why is it also the PRICE for sin?
 

ole for your dumb site that you blocked me from here is a comment for it.
"The verse garnished is a word describing making something clear og clean"
wrong! garnish means to DECORATE. in other words he decorated the heavens. there are three heavens. the first one is the sky. Genesis 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. this firmament is the sky. the second one is the galaxies or space. the third one is God's throne room.
2 Corinthians 12:2. I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
without form or void means nothin was created yet!
universe means a single spoken sentence. uni meaning one and verse mening a spoken sentence. through their fath they were taught that Jesus with his own voise made everything. the 3 heavens.
frame means an arrangement of parts fitted together, holding something in place or keeping the form of something unchanged, e.g. the supporting skeleton of a building or the rigid tubular structure of a bicycle.
no were does it mean to repair. you need to start looking up the damn words in a dictionary and stop reaching! nowhere in the whole bible is there a verse for an old earth. nowhere!
real science and math proves evolution is imposible. and about Psalm 102:25-26 people live about only a hundread years. a thousand years would be ancent compared to us. just because someone use old it doesn't tell you how many years he is thinking about.
II Thessalonians 2:10-12 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 

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Soulspeaker

I did not block you from my site

besides, the attitude "I only know" is not from God, we will eventually know when we go to heaven, until then, my guess is as good as yours, humility, heard of thet word?
 

Job 26:13 By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent.
What I think it says is this, that the crooked serpent, lucifer, destroyed Gods creation and God had to interfere to make it good again. QUOTE Ole

I believe in the Gap but I have to agree with Soulspeaker here, Ole. Your interpretation of Job 26 is pure conjecture and I think it cannot be correct. It gives too much power to the Devil.

Why not think God did it if there was already death and destruction on the earth, since the beginning?
 

Marco

I dont understand why you think the devil had too much power, it dont make sence to me, to me that is not the question

Ole
 

hey ole remember this?
Psalm 102:25-26 25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands. 26 They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed:

you know why you wrong? because you don't read the bible. you try to interpitate. don't. the bible is in english and already interpreted. they did it in 1611 with God. you don't have God in you so you can't interpret anything and you wont have any inspiration.

Isaiah 63:9
In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.

the days of old they are talking about are the 40 years of wondering in the dessert.
 

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I dont understand why you think the devil had too much power,... to me that is not the question QUOTE Ole

I'm saying the devil has too much power under your scenario where he is the cause of the Earth being rendered without form and void. Shall we also give the devil credit or blame for the prehistoric carnivors?

If this isn't the issue, it should be. Why debate the gap with people who think we must be guilty by association and in 100% agreement with evolutionists and therefore non-literalists?

The Bible is clear in Hebrew or English:
Isaiah 45:18 He hath established it, He created it not in vain...The word 'vain' is the same word that 'without form' is in Genesis 1:2

http://www.biblestudygames.com/biblestudies/threeworldages.htm

This site goes on to agree with your stated position. To me, this is the real debate. I don't know if it's for public consumption. But for the record, I only agree with that position if you mean Satan and man's FUTURE rebellion caused the "Earth Age" to be destroyed (I would say created too) prior to the Adamic Age.
 

Soulspeaker

it is so sad that you do that thing, saying who is in or out, that is Gods job, not ours

besides, how you meassure others it shall meassured back to you, so you dont do your self any favor in doing so

God bless
 

Marko

you said:

But for the record, I only agree with that position if you mean Satan and man's FUTURE rebellion caused the "Earth Age" to be destroyed (I would say created too) prior to the Adamic Age.

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why do you say future? I dont see that, to me it was prior to Adam and Eve, that man and satan rebelled

I did not read the article, dont have time right now
 

I still think Ezekiel 28: 12-15 says that the devil was perfect in Eden.

There was no sin until Eden.

Catholics are the only ones who can accept God and the Dinosaur age without giving cause to the devil's fall.

Even if the devil caused the destruction, it doesn't explain the lineage of hominid apes...
 

The position of Gap believers has to be that God created the line of "ascending" primates and then stopped that line when the human-like hominids appeared at the end of the Gap and then dropped in Adam and the first (reintroduced) great apes during the Creation after the Gap.

Not that it matters for salvation. I'm just trying to differentiate Gap Theory from Anti-Biblical Evolution Theories that rule out Genesis 1.
 

Marco

I disagree

I dont believe that God did it that way

I think they were people like us, I dont see any evidence for that view anywhere, but that is just my view
 

Ole,

If you believe the scientific timeline and genesis, then only neanderthal is questionably Adamic and therefore human like us. Their timeline is similar and allegedly overlaps.

http://www.peripatus.gen.nz/paleontology/
Wood2002Fig2.jpg

Surely Heidelbergensis and H. Erectus have to be automatically rejected. Unless you believe Adam was a million years ago.

I don't and they need to resemble human a little more for my consideration.
 

I think they were people like us. QUOTE Ole

Why do you think God would not make hominid apes that are like human but not descended from Adam?

Do you think it would make Him look like a deceiver because some people may be fooled into believing evolutionary descent?
 

everything about evolution is a lie!!! everything. the so called missing links, there is only one that is a human. the on with a thick skull. these were men that where over 500 years old and thats why they have a thick skull. see when we get older our bones thicken, our ears get bigger, our noses get longer and bigger too. all the others are all different parts of humans and apes or just a large monkey. they lie to get people to believe their religion. it not science and never will be.

"If you tell a lie long enough, loud enough and often enough the people will believe it."
 

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Living 500 years, of course, must make a difference, but Neanderthals were robust from birth, not from age. I'll agree with you however that Neanderthals were from Adam.

On the other hand, here are just some of reconstructions of the hominids God created. http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/
2007/07/tet_zoo_picture_of_the_day_22.php

Evolution is not an issue in the Gap theory because everything was destroyed before Genesis 2 and evolution is therefore excluded for Adamic creation in accordance with the Bible.

At issue might be why God give people over to various delusions. Is it just to punish them? Leave them to their folly?
 

was satan created in a day like ezekiel 28 describes it?

and if so would it be a 24 hour day linked to the 6 day creation?
 

if lucifer was created in a day like ezekiel 28 describes it there is no gap.
 

If the Devil is older than Adam and was created in "a day" BEFORE the six day creation, doesn't that mean there were literal DAYS before the six days. Was the earth rotating with day and night before Gen. 1:2?

Does the "first day" mean the first day EVER? I don't think so.

"In the beginning" is not part of the "first day", only the first morning and night after "let there be light". That's the first day of the Age of Adam.
 

if lucifer was created in a day like ezekiel 28 describes it there is no gap. QUOTE Eric

Now that you mention it, Eric, if lucifer was created in a day like ezekiel 28 describes it, then he was created IN THE GAP. Correct?

What do you mean by the devil's creation being linked to the six days? I know he was still perfect in the six days according to Ezekiel but wasn't he much older than Adam. He should be linked to the days in the gap if anything.
 

Adam didn't sin on the sixth day. Adam and eve could have been living in the garden for over 100 years before they fell. the bible never tells us what day they sinned and it never tells us what day satan sinned ether.
 

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I should have said "Lucifer unfallen linked to the six days", which is what Eric suggested and what I was questioning.

I do believe now that the devil fell in Adam's first hundred or so years (Seth was born when he was 130) which must be the case if he was perfect in the Garden according to Ezekiel 28.

Job suggests that the angels were there when the earth was created so it doesn't look like the Bible means an earth day when it talks of the day the devil was created. So an old devil doesn't prove an old earth...

Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? ... while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?
Job 38:3-7
 

I should have said "Lucifer unfallen linked to the six days", which is what Eric suggested and what I was questioning.

I do believe now that the devil fell in Adam's first hundred or so years (Seth was born when he was 130). But was questioning when he was created as angel and if it proved the gap.

Job suggests that the angels were there when the earth was created so it doesn't look like the Bible means an earth day when it talks of the day the devil was created. So an old devil doesn't prove an old earth...

Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? ... while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?
Job 38:3-7
 

the bible never tells us what day they sinned and it never tells us what day satan sinned ether. QUOTE Soulspeaker

We DO know he sinned before Adam and Even and we ALSO know he sinned with the help of one of God's earthly creations before Adam. Doesn't that mean God would have to bring death upon Eden anyway, if just for that snake?
 

Blogger Gappero said...
We DO know he sinned before Adam and Even and we ALSO know he sinned with the help of one of God's earthly creations before Adam. Doesn't that mean God would have to bring death upon Eden anyway, if just for that snake?

God gives us free choice to obey Him or not. The world belonged to Adam when the devil was evil. Why would God Bring death in the world when the world was given to man to take care of? The devil wanted the earth and God gave Adam a choice to keep it or lose it.
 

Why would God Bring death in the world when the world was given to man to take care of? QUOTE Soulspeaker

What would God have done to the snake if Adam didn't sin? Would he let it live if Satan failed? We know that God cursed all serpents for ITS crime and not Adam's. Its sin was on its head.

It's my opinion that, whether one believes God killed the dinosaurs or not, God would have had to kill the offending serpent in Eden. The question is therefore not why but, why not?
 

Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? ... while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?
Job 38:3-7

If the angels were created with the heavens, which makes sense to me, and then they were rejoicing over the creation of the earth, and all of that happened in verse 1, then there has to be a gap in verse 1 or the first day was very long.

Would the angels have been created separate from the heavens?
 

Ole: Do you have any primary source evidence that Thomas Chalmers actually did hold to a gap theory?
 

Hi George, no, I dont have a copy of what he said about the gap theory
 

George, no, I dont have a copy of what he said, but read through or search through "without form and void" , Custance might have a reference

Ole
 

Ole: I am afraid it may be an urban myth. There is no reference in any of the writings of Chalmers. Everything I have seen is either unattributed or based on assumptions in secondary sources. I have yet to find anything even resembling first hand evidence. I'll keep searching.
 

Ole: Custance argues in his first chapter that: "In 1814, Dr. Chalmers produced his more elaborate scheme of reconciliation between the Divine and the geologic records in an 'Examination of Cuvier's Theory of the Earth.' This paper presented the view that between the first act of creation which evoked out of the previous nothing the matter of the heavens and earth, and the first act of the first day's work recorded in Genesis, periods of vast duration may have intervened. He held that though in the previous period the earth may have been 'a fair residence of life,' it had be come a desolation: and that although the sun, moon, and stars continued their existence, 'in relation to our planet' their light had somehow become obscured."

In fact, in that paper Chalmers only argues that this is the theory put forward by Cuvier.
 

I believe it is on page 250 of Chalmers Natural Theology but I don't think he's presenting it as hard fact that has to be accepted. Only that scripture certainly allows for it and even suggests it.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=R8Y4AAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Natural+Theology,+Selected+works+of+Thomas+Chalmers&hl=en&sa=X&ei=cxrMUK-lBYTk2QXvuoCIBw&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=detailed&f=false
 

thanks for link
 

In each of the citations, in "Natural Theology" and in his review of Cuvier, Chalmers merely asserts that an elapse of time is possible--but, there is no advocacy of the theory. Indeed, he is always very cautious and asserts the need for humility in positing any of a host of possibilities.
 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/209111040/Foundation-of-the-World

 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/209111040/Foundation-of-the-World

 

COULD EVERY RELIGION ON EARTH HAVE IT WRONG?

It is true that every monotheistic religion on earth accepts the traditional, 2000 year old interpretation of Genesis as being literally true, and refuses to relinquish the resultant beliefs, which cannot possibly be true. Let me give you just one example, although I can name many others as well.

I challenge you to ask any minister, priest, rabbi or cleric, or even the Pope himself, "Who was Adam?" They will all answer that Adam was the first man. The fact is...he most definitely was not.

Let me prove this, using nothing more than common logic:

I know that everyone can agree that Jesus was a Jew. The name "Jew" originated with the tribe of Judah, but historically they were known as Hebrew, so let's use that term instead.

Beginning with Jesus, a Hebrew, let's trace the ethnic roots of only the major patriarchal figures of his ancestry beginning with David. If Jesus was Hebrew, then David had to be Hebrew as well. Moses begat David. That means Moses also had to be Hebrew. Noah begat Moses, also Hebrew. Abraham begat Noah, and finally Adam begat Abraham. This can only mean that Adam was created as Hebrew. But if Adam was the first man on earth, then the Hebrew race would be the only race on earth, which we know is not the case.

So, there you have it. I have conclusively proven that Adam could not have possibly been the first man on earth.

Actually, Adam was a latecomer to the human population on earth, created a mere 6,000 years ago. The "Gentile" (anyone not Hebrew) predates Adam by at least 200,000 years, which God created on the African continent in an area, which has become known as "The Cradle of Civilization".
We know this because we all carry a small amount of DNA from these early African ancestors.

So, when God said, "let us create man (Hebrew) in our image and likeness", he wasn't speaking of you and me, he was clearly speaking of Adam the Hebrew.

When God created Adam, he was given a spirit, which enabled resurrection. He was also given an extended life expectancy of nearly a thousand years, two features the original Gentiles never did have.

This one misinterpretation in the book of Genesis alone, has had a domino effect on meanings in the other 65 books of the Bible.

But it gets worse. There are many other misinterpretations in the book of Genesis, which only go to compound the confusion most believers experience when studying the Bible.

After 10 years of research, I have written a book, which shows that
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That was my goal when writing "The AWAKENING - Does Scientific Evidence Support the Existence of a Divine Creator?", to write a book that is both easy to understand and one that untangles all the previously unsolvable mysteries.

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Alas, Mr. Follet's poor historiography, to say nothing of his altogether uninformed anthropology, is so far afield that it warrants little response other than this: you need to do your homework; you need to read the related literature of the past 1000 years.
 

Mr Grant's response is exactly what I would expect from someone who has been firmly indoctrinated by traditional theological teachings. Notice that he didn't address any of my claims directly - just hurled some general insults.
 

MAKING SENSE OF THE 6 DAY CREATION MYTH

I have heard many people reason that, "The universe must have been created in 6 days because God is incapable of telling a lie."

Jesus is also considered to be sinless, but if you are looking for literal truth in the telling of his 46 parables, he would have been considered to be one of the biggest liars of his time. Not a single one of his parables was literally true.
He was making up an untrue story to get a more important point across to his audience. No one considers that to be the telling of a lie.

The same is true of God, in the telling of His six day creation story to Moses. What point was God trying to make? He wanted the Hebrews to work six days and set aside the seventh day to worship Him.

The belief in a six day creation is simply another casualty of literal interpretation. This was God's one parable, which apparently did the job He intended. We're still holding one day a week open to worship Him.

We must remember, God wasn't speaking to a 21st Century physicist, He was talking to a primitive Hebrew, who couldn't possibly have understood the meaning of "Fourteen and a half billion years ago" - anyway, it didn't matter to Moses how long it took God to do his creation work. What did matter, was for Moses to understand that God was the one responsible for doing it.

I think many of us have a tendency to over think these things, trying to make a literal interpretation work, when it just doesn't make sense in today's world of advanced scientific knowledge.


 

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If your knowledge of my work is limited to epigrams posted in social media you seem to have missed my 82 commercially published books, to say nothing of thousands of articles. My critique remains: do your homework.
 

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Soulspeaker,
Get your scientifically evidenced chronology right.
Dinosaurs 150 million yrs ago
Modern man 200,000 yrs ago
Re-creation of Adam 4,000 yrs ago.
Humans have never co-existed with dinosaurs.
 

Sorry, Adam 6,000 yrs ago
 

I don't know where you people get your wild ideas. Neanderthals were created by God 20,000 years ago, with a life expectancy of about 30 years.

Adam was God's special creation, created 6,000 years ago, the first (Hebrew) and only human created with a spirit - and life expectancy of nearly 1,000 years.

 

Here's a little tidbit, which illustrates how far off the mark the traditional interpretation of the Bible is:

Its a fact that when Adam was created in 4004 BC, the world's population was between 5 and 7 million people.

If you want the interpretation that proves the Bible is true, Google the phrase (Does scientific evidence support the existence of a Divine Creator?)

 

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Jesus paid for the sin of mankind because we are created in His image. The death that scripture speaks of is not a physical one but a spiritual one. Spiritual death is to be disconnected from God who is the source of life.
 

I am speaking of Adam specifically because he is the man who brought death and Jesus being the last Adam paid for it on our behalf. God told Adam that if he ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, he would die that day. Did he die a physical death that day? No. Is God a liar then? No. Adam died spiritually. In other words, the essence of Adam’s spirit from that day forward was death. And, as his descendants, we too are born spiritually dead until we are born of the Spirit.
 

It seems obvious that Satan had already fallen by the time he met Eve in the garden because God refers to him as the serpent, who is more subtle than any other beast. In this context, subtle means that he was known by God as the deceiver.